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ClarkFarm
06-17-2006, 11:46 PM
I did something rather unexpected today... let me explain. We use an amish farrier for our draft horses. We pick him up and bring him to our farm and then afterwards, take him home again. We get along very nicely with him and his family and enjoy the time he spends at our home. He has helped us many times on a whim.

So when we took him back to his house again, I walked into his barn to see the newest horses he had gotten as I usually do (he is somewhat of a horse dealer though he does take good care of them and I have never seen one mistreated).
I didnt even see this dog at first until I sat down and she came literally crawling into my lap. She jumped when I reached to pet her and ran off to the corner then. I spoke with her softly for a few minutes and she very slowly came crawling back over, her tail tucked way up beneath her belly. I asked the amish man about her when he came into the barn and he said "if you want her, then take her." I asked him what the story to her was and he said she was of "no use" to him because she would not hunt. He then said that his father had put a baby raccoon in with her only to find them curled up together sleeping the next day. He told me that his father was trying to give the dog away. She is a registered coonhound, only 18 months old.

You have to understand that there are certain things I disagree with that the amish do but they are subjects not talked about. I know in my heart she has been beaten. I do not think it was by the farrier based on my experience with him and his family. He had gotten her from a different amish family who gave her to them only a short month ago.

So I brought her home. I put her in a kennel I use to separate new goats or ones that need some time apart for whatever reason. She is so frightened she just crouches in the corner. She flinches as well.

I did introduce her very carefully to my other dogs after a couple hours and she wagged her tail while it was tucked up under her belly, a good sign I thought. I only did this for a few minutes because I didnt want to overdo her first day here but I was curious to see what reaction she would have.

Well, I have helped rescue dogs before but not one to this degree. I honestly think I saved her from becoming a "puppy mill" breeder dog or even death. Many amish shoot their hunting dogs that do not hunt.

If anyone has any experience with a dog who behaves this way, please let me know. I would love to talk about the best methods in helping her overcome whatever fearful past she has.
I think I will be keeping her outside in the kennel until she has become used to us at least and then maybe progress to crate-training indoors. Of course, she needs vetted before then. She was submissive even to my youngest son who is only 2 and a half years old.
I am not sure if I will keep her permanently or try to re-home her if she would ever be ready for that. She is safe here though and I do not have any unreal expectations. If she remains shy, she can at least live in the fenced in backyard and play with my other two dogs.

Here are the couple pictures I took of her right after I put her in the kennel. I didnt even have the kennel cleaned out then since I wasn't expecting this so dont mind the goat poop! Notice how she avoids eye contact.

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Patch O' Pits
06-18-2006, 12:13 AM
It takes time to work with dogs that have been abused. Hopefully through love and your kindness she'll come around, but you may need a trainer to help you if that doesn't workout.

My sister rescued a coonhound from a shelter not to long ago and she was scared and wouldn't wag her tail at first and now is a happy gal


Good luck and kudos for saving her

ClarkFarm
06-18-2006, 01:53 AM
Thanks!

Well there was a spark of hope already! I went back to her to feed her and she hid while I entered to fill her dish so then I went and fed the horses. After that I walked back over to the kennel and she came to the side and when I crouched down, she leaned against the chain link and closed her eyes. She had even offered a tail wag briefly. I think she will come around pretty quick if she is already showing signs of improvement.

I have never had a hound dog before lol, so this is a new adventure for me. I cant wait to hear her bay. Was your sister's coonhound easy to integrate indoors?

Reggies mom
06-18-2006, 03:48 AM
What a wonderful thing to do!! I sure hope the improvements continue. She is such a cute furkid!!
Good luck and bless you!;)

Rio&Nickysmommy
06-18-2006, 04:41 AM
Yes what a great thing you did. I think so love an patience will help this dog and stability. The dog needs to know that they can trust you and your family. Hugs for doing such a wonderful rescue!
RIo&Nickysmommy

catcher T
06-19-2006, 03:33 AM
awww,,bless your heart!! I encourage them with tiny bits of hotdog,,u don't want to fill her belly like a meal,,but she will associate u with something good if everytime u talk to her u give her a few pieces. and do what u are doing. he may not have beat her,,she just be one of those fearful dogs,,but now u don't have a good feeling about this person and u will always be watching him,,thats cute that she slept with the coon and didn't tear him up.

GSP4619
06-20-2006, 04:42 PM
ClarkFarm you did a wonderful thing!!!! She is so cute. I am no expert but I think she has been in that dark barn for so long and did not have much human contact so she is not use to it. Maybe you could have her spend some time in the house with a crate their for her just to go in if she feels scared. So she can get use to people. You don't have to convince her so much she can just observe. I am just giving you some tips on what I have heard others give.

Please keep me posted on her progress.

:)

ClarkFarm
06-26-2006, 02:36 AM
She does much better while she is with Lucy (my pup in the avator) and is alot braver then. She even took a few steps inside the house yesterday. I had left the back door open and she walked in with Lucy, kind of stood in the doorway for a moment and then went back outside.

She absolutely loves going for walks and she gets very excited when she sees a leash now, even forgets she is afraid for a few minutes. Yesterday was the first time she jumped up on me wagging her tail and then later when I was sitting in the grass, she pushed into me just briefly with her muzzle. I have been petting her under the chin because she flinches if you try to pet her on top of the head and so this has worked well.

She bays and howls now when I return her to the kennel at night but I want to wait until she is fully vetted before I bring her inside and start crate-training. Until then, I will slowly get her used to the normal sounds of our household, let her peek in like she did. Her bays are the neatest sound to me, so deep and drawn out. They kind of turn into a howl. She knows her name now, least her nickname... Penny for Penelope.

She does good with my children as long as they allow her to approach them. She will go to them, especially when they are preoccupied, and let them pet her but she will run from anyone who goes directly straight at her. When I fetch her from the fenced in yard, I talk to her while I "roam" the yard, and then sit down. She will then come right to me. She is definitely more afraid of men and has not once come to my husband yet.

GSP4619
06-26-2006, 12:58 PM
awwww well that is some progress. Such a cute name Penny LOL she is adorable. I am glad that she gets along well with Lucy. Still will take some time but at least their is progress :)

ClarkFarm
06-27-2006, 03:42 AM
As soon as I get a somewhat dry day here, I will take some pictures of them playing together in the back yard.

GSP4619
06-27-2006, 12:48 PM
Great can't waite :) .

ClarkFarm
06-29-2006, 07:54 PM
I posted some pics under the Dog Photography forum. Enjoy!

GSP4619
06-29-2006, 08:21 PM
Ok I will take a look :)

Jynx
07-03-2006, 12:01 AM
what a wonderful thing you have done for this poor pooch. She's a beauty by the way!!

It sounds like you are doing great by doing exactly what you are. Patience, love and understanding. I might suggest, try feeding her by hand as well, and you mention she gets along great with your pooch in the avatar. Dogs learn from others, and it sounds like since she does get along great with your other dog, this will be beneficial in boosting her confidence and trust.

I say, keep on doing what your doing, good job!
diane

madeliasjake
07-05-2006, 04:49 AM
that is so great that you gave this dog a normal life....in time her appreciation will most definitely show!!!!