Food to prevent food allergies? - Dog Forums

SmoothCollieluver · 09-11-2006, 10:43 PM

My puppy has several dogs in his line that have moderate to sever food alergies. I would of course like to avoid that. Does anyone know what food would be good?

tftmom · 09-11-2006, 11:22 PM

Wow, is this a problem in your breed? Since you know several dogs in the line have food allergies, do you know if they are all allergic to the same thing such as wheat or corn? If you can pinpoint or narrow down the allergen then that would be the place to start.

Otherwise it seems to me that you won't know unless or until your dog exhibits symptoms and then you will need to start an elimination diet. My Toy Fox Terrier has allergies and I have him on the Westie Diet which is Nutro Lamb and Rice with 7% ground beef and a bunch of supplements. 3 nutritional ingredients-Lamb-brown rice-beef. A good place to start an elimination diet since you are only dealing with three ingredients. If symptoms continue you eliminate one ingredient at a time until you isolate what the dog is reacting to. Hopefully it is the only food allergen! My dog is doing much better on this diet.

SmoothCollieluver · 09-12-2006, 12:21 AM

No it isn't a typical problem in my breed. The dogs I know the one is alergic to everything pretty much and the others were also not generally the same. One was wheat, one was corn and beef, ect. It isn't an overwhelming number of dogs in his line. I just happen to know most of the people that own them. I had his great, great, great, great....you the get the picture, grandma.

Miska · 09-14-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmoothCollieluver

Does anyone know what food would be good?

Hello.

A good premium kibble I would recommend for a dog with allergies is California Natural, which is made by the same company who makes Innova..

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Pure & Simple
That's how to best describe the ingredients in the California Natural line.

With only one primary, high-quality protein source, California Natural can meet the special dietary needs of dogs that cannot tolerate typical pet food ingredients. It's just a Pure and Simple pet food.

You will love what we put into our California Natural pet food:
Pure and simple receipes of lean meats, essential vitamins and key minerals your pet needs to stay happy and healthy.

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Additives, chemical preservatives or fillers that can compromise the well-being and vitality of even the healthiest animal.

You see, we know that your pet's quality of life is one of your biggest priorities. That's why we make the quality of our pet food our number one job!

Our full selection of California Natural pet foods is created with only the most wholesome natural ingredients. Simply put, it's up to the standards you would demand for yourself--and then some!!

WHAT WE PUT IN
Simple, high-quality ingredients like Omega 3 fatty acids and Omega 6 fatty acids for a lustrous coat and healthy skin. This is especially important for animals who may be prone to itchy skin. California Natural also adds Vitamin E for its antioxidant properties.

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California Natural contains NO wheat, NO corn, NO soy, NO artificial preservatives, NO artificial flavoring, NO added coloring, NO by-products. California Natural is formulated to be complete and balanced for all dogs and cats.

ADDED TAURINE
Recent university research has suggested that like cats, some breeds of dogs may benefit from Taurine in the diet. While California Natural has always contained ample Taurine from natural sources such as lamb meal, we have decided to supplement Taurine to ensure that all puppies receive full nutritional benefit from our products.

SmoothCollieluver · 09-14-2006, 03:54 AM

I have him on innova evo right now. but it doesn't seem to be agreeing with him. I'll have to take a look.

Sweettuth · 09-14-2006, 06:25 AM

My mother's dog has had really bad allergies, so I decided to put him on the raw diet 6 weeks ago. My mom took him to the vet and I went with her since I knew food would come up since he was going in for allergies. I told the vet that we just started the raw diet her reply was well your eliminating carbohydrates which he may be allerrgic to, and that might work. He seems to be doing a lot better, still itching but no longer chewing himself.

RobDar · 09-26-2006, 02:27 PM

allergies...what food would be good???
and folks are answering...
I think you need to know what exactly your dogs is allergic to before you choose a food.
is it corn? is it barley? is it oats? meat? what is the allergy to????
you cannot choose a food until you have a comprehensive allergy test to know that the food you are choosing does not contain anything your dog is allergic to.

someone said high quality kibble...what if the dog is allergic to salmon meal...or bison meat...or just meat in general??? you kinda have to know what NOT to give before you can answer WHAT to give...

what if the allergy is not even food related?
Our foster home has a dog allergic to mice of all things...changing his food would not have done much good to solve his allergy when it was the kids 4H project that was bothering the dog.

StarfishSaving · 09-26-2006, 05:52 PM

RobDar, if I'm reading correctly, the puppy doesn't have allergies yet so it's not a matter of figuring anything out, she just wants a food that is typically safe.

Next, I just want to mention that there IS no reliable "comprehensive" test for food allergies. So the preferred way to SEE if it's being caused by a food source is an elimination diet- which means starting with food that has a small ingredient list and non-typical protein and filler ingredients- like salmon, bison, oatmeal, etc. Foods with those ingredients are considered hypoallergenic because only a very, very small portion of dogs with allergies are allergic to them. Once your dog's allergies are cleared up then you begin adding one possible irritant at a time- chicken, or wheat, or rice or corn, etc- to pinpoint what allergen(s) may be triggering a reaction. It's a good method and is almost exclusively recommended by vets PRIOR to RAST or ELISA testing. I've never met a vet who suggested the testing until food allergies were ruled out through diet. Also, skin tests are scary for the dog, so why put him/her through it when you can try a benign method like elimination dieting?

Here are some sites that discuss elimination diets:
http://www.petshealth.com/dr_library/fooddogs.html
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...allergies.html
http://www.vetinfo.com/dallergy.html...od%20allergies

About testing:
http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=504
http://www.vetinfo.com/dallergy.html#RAST%20testing

Woof · 09-26-2006, 10:22 PM

I second what Starfishsaving has to say. That said I think California Natural is a superb elimination diet.

Puddles · 10-06-2006, 04:13 AM

Innova Evo is too high in protein for puppies, maybe this is causing the problems. I also agree with trying the California Natural.

09-11-2006, 10:43 PM	#1
SmoothCollieluver For the Love Of the Breed Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a house Posts: 874	Food to prevent food allergies? My puppy has several dogs in his line that have moderate to sever food alergies. I would of course like to avoid that. Does anyone know what food would be good?

09-26-2006, 02:27 PM	#7
RobDar Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 24	allergies.... allergies...what food would be good??? and folks are answering... I think you need to know what exactly your dogs is allergic to before you choose a food. is it corn? is it barley? is it oats? meat? what is the allergy to???? you cannot choose a food until you have a comprehensive allergy test to know that the food you are choosing does not contain anything your dog is allergic to. someone said high quality kibble...what if the dog is allergic to salmon meal...or bison meat...or just meat in general??? you kinda have to know what NOT to give before you can answer WHAT to give... what if the allergy is not even food related? Our foster home has a dog allergic to mice of all things...changing his food would not have done much good to solve his allergy when it was the kids 4H project that was bothering the dog.

09-26-2006, 05:52 PM	#8
StarfishSaving Starfish To the sea ResQ Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SW PA Posts: 460	RobDar, if I'm reading correctly, the puppy doesn't have allergies yet so it's not a matter of figuring anything out, she just wants a food that is typically safe. Next, I just want to mention that there IS no reliable "comprehensive" test for food allergies. So the preferred way to SEE if it's being caused by a food source is an elimination diet- which means starting with food that has a small ingredient list and non-typical protein and filler ingredients- like salmon, bison, oatmeal, etc. Foods with those ingredients are considered hypoallergenic because only a very, very small portion of dogs with allergies are allergic to them. Once your dog's allergies are cleared up then you begin adding one possible irritant at a time- chicken, or wheat, or rice or corn, etc- to pinpoint what allergen(s) may be triggering a reaction. It's a good method and is almost exclusively recommended by vets PRIOR to RAST or ELISA testing. I've never met a vet who suggested the testing until food allergies were ruled out through diet. Also, skin tests are scary for the dog, so why put him/her through it when you can try a benign method like elimination dieting? Here are some sites that discuss elimination diets: http://www.petshealth.com/dr_library/fooddogs.html http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...allergies.html http://www.vetinfo.com/dallergy.html...od%20allergies About testing: http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=504 http://www.vetinfo.com/dallergy.html#RAST%20testing __________________ www.starfishtothesea.org Starfish To the sea Animal Rescue All kinds. All heart. Always.

09-26-2006, 10:22 PM	#9
Woof Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California Posts: 54	I second that I second what Starfishsaving has to say. That said I think California Natural is a superb elimination diet.

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09-11-2006, 11:22 PM	#2
tftmom Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 82	Wow, is this a problem in your breed? Since you know several dogs in the line have food allergies, do you know if they are all allergic to the same thing such as wheat or corn? If you can pinpoint or narrow down the allergen then that would be the place to start. Otherwise it seems to me that you won't know unless or until your dog exhibits symptoms and then you will need to start an elimination diet. My Toy Fox Terrier has allergies and I have him on the Westie Diet which is Nutro Lamb and Rice with 7% ground beef and a bunch of supplements. 3 nutritional ingredients-Lamb-brown rice-beef. A good place to start an elimination diet since you are only dealing with three ingredients. If symptoms continue you eliminate one ingredient at a time until you isolate what the dog is reacting to. Hopefully it is the only food allergen! My dog is doing much better on this diet.

09-12-2006, 12:21 AM	#3
SmoothCollieluver For the Love Of the Breed Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a house Posts: 874	No it isn't a typical problem in my breed. The dogs I know the one is alergic to everything pretty much and the others were also not generally the same. One was wheat, one was corn and beef, ect. It isn't an overwhelming number of dogs in his line. I just happen to know most of the people that own them. I had his great, great, great, great....you the get the picture, grandma.

09-14-2006, 03:54 AM	#5
SmoothCollieluver For the Love Of the Breed Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a house Posts: 874	I have him on innova evo right now. but it doesn't seem to be agreeing with him. I'll have to take a look.

09-14-2006, 06:25 AM	#6
Sweettuth Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Camarillo,CA Posts: 25	My mother's dog has had really bad allergies, so I decided to put him on the raw diet 6 weeks ago. My mom took him to the vet and I went with her since I knew food would come up since he was going in for allergies. I told the vet that we just started the raw diet her reply was well your eliminating carbohydrates which he may be allerrgic to, and that might work. He seems to be doing a lot better, still itching but no longer chewing himself.

10-06-2006, 04:13 AM	#10
Puddles Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PA Posts: 61	Innova Evo is too high in protein for puppies, maybe this is causing the problems. I also agree with trying the California Natural.